Question: How is lucifer(satan) related to hell? and why do people claim angels have no emotion?

(Posted by: My name is WHAT? on 2010-03-13 09:43:28)

Ezekiel 28:12- 19 12 "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: " 'You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. 14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. 16 Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. 17 Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18 By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. 19 All the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more.' "

Posted by: Neuropsych on 2010-03-13, 10:14:09

The Satan in Hell theory is directly from the Q'ran. How it got into Christianity is beyond me. Perhaps Pope Gregory did that as well as his other evils. Luke 22:31-33 (New International Version) 31 "Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat. 32But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers. " 33But he replied, "Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death. " Did Jesus say, "I've prayed to God that that meanie Satan would leave you alone; I'll build a wall of immunity around you? " Those who think Jesus really didn't mean to stick Satan on Peter is not thinking like a Christian should think. They want to blame a chainsaw for cutting down a tree instead of blaming the operator. Actually, God uses Satan as His #1 tool to sift His children like wheat. You can see here that Satan and the anger of God are synonymous: 2 Samuel 24:1-2 (New International Version) 1 Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go and take a census of Israel and Judah. " 2 So the king said to Joab and the army commanders with him, "Go throughout the tribes of Israel from Dan to Beersheba and enroll the fighting men, so that I may know how many there are. " 1 Chronicles 21 1 Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. 2 So David said to Joab and the commanders of the troops, "Go and count the Israelites from Beersheba to Dan. Then report back to me so that I may know how many there are. " 3 But Joab replied, "May the LORD multiply his troops a hundred times over. My lord the king, are they not all my lord's subjects? Why does my lord want to do this? Why should he bring guilt on Israel? " In these parallel accounts, Satan and the anger of God are obviously in agreement, telling David to number the people. Satan can do nothing without the Father. Satan loves to carry out the deed of putting God's children through the sifter to test their faith.